I apologize for the formatting. I am my own IT department, in addition to being a "one armed paper hanger," and independent research scientist. I wrote these messages with the CDC after being frustrated with the automated responses from Joe Biden and Jared Polis' office.
Cassandra strikes again.
Did you hear the news today? I have been trying to communicate with the government about this since December. COVID boosters are not as effective in people under 65, and natural immunity from COVID infecion is sufficient. Also, they were withholding data. This of course casts an interesting shadow on the idea of vaccine passports with respect to personal choice and unnecessary medical interventions.
So frustrating. I wish I could feel like I could trust my government, but sometimes I feel like they are trying to kill me and my family. Theoretically, one should feel safe living where I live, but this has really been something!
No single person should have too much power, and especially not over a certain age. If I have learned anything from watching the news the last few years, it is that most of the older generation and the wealthy are incapable of making decisions in the interest of consciousness, because they don't even know what it is. For them it is all about corporate backscratching and market shares.
Also, I have a friend who recently came down with COVID even though she was vaccinated, boosted, and in good health with no comorbidities. She is having long haul symptoms and has a job where she regularly works with formaldehyde. None of the rest of her family became ill.
Feb 11, 2022, 8:44 AM (10 days ago)
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Is there a plan to update the data visualization on the COVID Cases and Deaths by vaccination status page? I would like to be able to see current booster comparison for age groups, but I need to know what has happened in the last month.
My family had COVID in November 2020, long haul, then had two doses of the Pfizer vaccine as soon as we were eligible and had reactions. Then we've had at least two breakthrough infections, despite being very isolated. I realize we are outliers (my husband and I both have multiple great-grandparents who were orphaned during the Great Depression or by TB). This situation has been crippling for us.
FWIW, my husband, son and dog have a history of vaccine reactions and I have a graduate degree in neuroscience. I studied Alzheimer's. I have tried so many different things and may have figured some things out. We react to some vaccines and not others, and have genetics that predispose us to autism spectrum disorders. I have kids who I need to help become citizens of the world. My son who will be 21 in April decided that despite having two breakthrough infections he wanted to get a booster and so he got the Moderna one and did just fine (I think we are prone to mitochondrial problems which are aggravated by the native spike protein used by Pfizer). Because I am the primary caregiver in the house and am perimenopausal, I am not recovering as quickly as everyone else.
If I had a breakthrough infection in early December, would that be good enough, or are we so technologically brainwashed that we do not believe native infection confers immunity?
BTW, I am fairly certain that the disparities in survival have to do with polymorphisms in choline dehydrogenase (CHDH) and phosphatidylethanolamine methyltransferase (PEMT). The population genetics match the disparities in death exactly.